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Re: Nortel to Talk About Avaya Deal

GoProto — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 19:36:35 -0000

Hack's counting parking lot spaces...

Re: Nortel to Talk About Avaya Deal

freqmgr — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 15:40:00 -0000

Excuse me but if those running what is left of Nortel want to save some money....then why do they still have a group labeled as the "Ethics Department"? If it were truly functional there would have been a lot of the ELT and other management team out in the street. Lay the ethics folks off now....and be ehtical about it....same severance package as the others have gotten.

Re: Nortel to Talk About Avaya Deal

less — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 13:32:25 -0000

yeah.

Re: Nortel to Talk About Avaya Deal

less — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 13:31:24 -0000

...according to pay czar Kenneth Feinberg "the risk of employee departures must be minimized because Chrysler Financial has stated it intends to wind down its operations and will have difficulty attracting new employees."

That means that, according to government's take on Cerberus' take, the company needs to keep pay high so it can keep good people so it can close in two years.

http://www.autoblog.com/200...

Re: Nortel to Talk About Avaya Deal

The_Deuce — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 13:18:53 -0000

yeah ACE is new.. so its gets a pass.. it has only been around for > 3 years and invested a fortune in R&D.... the crazies are running the insane asylum..

Re: Nortel to Talk About Avaya Deal

less — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 12:14:57 -0000

All thats lacking is an earnings restatement. No?

Re: Nortel to Talk About Avaya Deal

The_Deuce — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 12:03:24 -0000

You obviously must work on the ACE team... the IVR product in Nortel was multi-vendor since day one. The ACE team came along and spent >100 M to reinvent something that already existed. The ACE team throws a web service around something and thinks they have added business value. The proof is in the pudding. ACE is been around for over 3 years and its generated virtually no revenue.. Tell me you have a crown jewel when you build something that someone actually buys.. demos don't count...

Re: Nortel to Talk About Avaya Deal

less — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 11:58:48 -0000

Aw, now...

In my mind ACE represents one of the crown jewels of Nortel technology.

While initially targeting 1000 users, HSBC plans to expand this ACE application across the globe, a strong testament to the value proposition delivered by Nortel ACE.

To me, the business value of Unified Communications comes when UC is integrated into business processes leveraging vendor-agnostic integration software such as Nortel's ACE. It's all about accelerating these business processes by reducing human latency.

• Multi-vendor environments (Avaya is paying lip service to multi-vendor, but there's no reference to anything but Avaya)

Avaya is just now... On the other hand, Nortel totally...

In contrast, the Nortel Agile Communication Environment (ACE) is ..

Nortel is the Crown Jewel of Avaya.

http://blog.tmcnet.com/the-...

Re: Nortel to Talk About Avaya Deal

Tim — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 10:31:52 -0000

Hilarious....and so true. The only apps I saw coming out of ACE were the kind of things that are being sold for 99 cents in the iTunes AppStore. "click here to make a voice call".....oooooohhhhh.....you mean, like what I can do in Yahoo IM for free?

From what I saw, ACE has made Nortel about a hundred bucks in revenue this year.

Re: Nortel to Talk About Avaya Deal

The_Deuce — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 10:11:05 -0000

I cannot believe these guys are still talking about ACE. I think its kind of like everyone hopes that they actually have something, but nothing is really there. Its kind of sad. Avaya won't put up with that for very long. Once they realize that the Emperor has no clothes on (the emperor being ACE) they will shut that waste of money down like Nortel should have several years ago. They have probably spent >100M of R&D on ACE and have nothing to show for it other then some demos that an intern could of whipped up...

Re: Nortel to Talk About Avaya Deal

scarred — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 08:26:56 -0000

And Nortel Ethics Department just turns a blind eye......the management staff must soon be due for another SUCCESS bonus......

Re: Nortel to Talk About Avaya Deal

S_O_S_This_is_HMS_Nortel — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 07:59:46 -0000

In the GIS last week, according to the business ops guy (Dave ??) who's in charge of the transition, the offer letters will be sent out up until mid Nov.
However he also said , they are waiting for some offer rejections (fat chance) and fill those with lowly peons.

It makes sense that if you don't get an offer by end this week, either you will be laid-off or perhaps moved to NBS run by Hack's protege Flanagan.

Good luck to your family.

Re: Nortel to Talk About Avaya Deal

EMEA_engineer — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 06:00:02 -0000

Here in Italy the Administrators and local management are preparing for Avaya a very nice deal :-)

Following "Nortel's way" of doing things they're laying off most of the remained engineeers in order to save places for senior management staff. Well done.

Avaya is going to buy one of our best product: the "ZeroCustomer" Staff

Re: Nortel to Talk About Avaya Deal

zeroman — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 21:27:52 -0000

Hack is working on his offer letter. No time for puny people.

Re: Nortel to Talk About Avaya Deal

zeroman — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 21:26:54 -0000

offer letter means you are hired. otherwise it means you are fired which is the Nortel letter.

Re: Nortel to Talk About Avaya Deal

zeroman — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 21:23:59 -0000

buddies only.

Re: Nortel to Talk About Avaya Deal

ntpurgatory — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 20:21:09 -0000

Talking to Enterprise peers. Supposedly offers have been handed out over the last 2 weeks and this week is the last of the offer handouts. Info is only as good as this: I had heard it from a handful of Enterprise employees... Again, is Hack saying anything? Nope

Re: Nortel to Talk About Avaya Deal

scarred — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 19:48:10 -0000

Some people in Canada have been given up to 3 months notice and others were given extra vacation pay..... all depends how generous the manager or HR prime is

Re: Nortel to Talk About Avaya Deal

less — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 15:49:53 -0000

I'll almost bet theres a Cisco spy sending out misinformation.....

Re: Nortel to Talk About Avaya Deal

HSMama — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 12:46:18 -0000

where did you find out the info about the deadline?

Re: Nortel to Talk About Avaya Deal

ntpurgatory — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 22:47:07 -0000

Deadline for offer letters is Friday and I don't have the WARN notice... so... ntpurgatory's in purgatory

Re: Nortel to Talk About Avaya Deal

scalppeeler — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 22:21:19 -0000

Not following you here. You are saying you were not given an offering letter from the buyer. Therefore you are being laid off by the sounds of it. What's the confusing part?

Re: Nortel to Talk About Avaya Deal

S_O_S_This_is_HMS_Nortel — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 22:05:00 -0000

Up in Canada you will be given a Boot Act..2hrs and you are out the door. No WARNing whatsoever !

Re: Nortel to Talk About Avaya Deal

ntpurgatory — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 21:25:52 -0000

Exactly what we all are trying to figure out. Well handled, Nortel. Well handled...

Re: Nortel to Talk About Avaya Deal

scalppeeler — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 19:08:51 -0000

I thought you were either given an offering letter from the new buyer or you were not. If you were not I assume that means you will be laid off. I assume the people getting letters in the mail saying they are done jan 1st at nortel were not given an offering letter from avaya.