All About Nortel - Latest Comments in Q2 Results: August 1

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buckpost — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:34:06 -0000

Thanks - much appreciated.

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Joe — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:24:55 -0000

Keep up the good fight Mark. You have a lot of happy/posituve/constructive readers/bloggers!

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observer — Sat, 12 Jul 2008 21:52:34 -0000

What I'm saying it doesn't matter at times who is at wheel. Macroeconmic forces sometimes overwhelm the entire situation of all companies - even the good ones. We are in one of those time periods now. Equities are toast.

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puddintane — Fri, 11 Jul 2008 20:03:17 -0000

Dude, what you're saying is that we're asleep at the wheel here; that the outside world is infinitely more complicated than we appear, or care, to comprehend. Yet your solution to it all is one-dimensional: We must awake and follow the lead - of an anonymous "observer". Complicate things that are simple and simplify complex issues.
"All about Nortel" means just that to the masses here. And the majority rules. You say so yourself.

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Observer — Fri, 11 Jul 2008 13:28:23 -0000

Once you start a discussion about stock price of Nortel you open the discussion up to how and why equities like Nortel get manipulated. Equities move up and down based on macro as well as microeconomic forces. Nortel is no different. The masses can talk about Nortel until they are blue in the face but there are larger forces influencing both Nortel, the industry and the overall global economy.

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puddintane — Fri, 11 Jul 2008 11:48:00 -0000

Mark Owens created this blog to (ostensibly) discuss Nortel, and Nortel only. The masses promptly arrived and now talk Nortel - while adhering to his rules, overall. (That makes him a corporate shill, eh, monitoring our IPs, and stuff...)

You essentially come in off the street, ignore the decorum, grab the mic and tell the masses you are a spokesman for the entire world, know the true path to enlightenment, that we need to think "globally" by simply believing everything you say and following suit - lest we expose ourselves as mindless corporate drones. You did all the critical thinking for us so we don't have to.

The masses have chosen to talk about Nortel at "All About Nortel".

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Observer — Fri, 11 Jul 2008 10:46:13 -0000

I''ve heard your Truths uttered time and again since I started working full-time in Europe, from 1981 to 1992, then here in the US since, but so far nothing has changed anywhere.

It has to crash before things will change. Check out the stock markets today. Government sponsored entities Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are down over 40% each. Like everything else systems undergo birth, death and rebirth. It is the cycle as old as the solar system.

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puddintane — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 22:28:38 -0000

.Come into 2008. Employees come and go. Get use to it. We live in the age of globalization. The age of entitlement is over. This is a good thing.,

"Eve of Destruction" was written in 1963. Woodstock was the best generation ever. I was in 3rd grade during the US' first energy crisis - "the worst ever. Nixon was worse than Hitler. The Thinkers at the recent G8 summit dressed in clown makeup, wiggled their asses and tongues at cops and waved posters with a lovingly placed swastika on Angela Merkel's forehead.
I''ve heard your Truths uttered time and again since I started working full-time in Europe, from 1981 to 1992, then here in the US since, but so far nothing has changed anywhere. which is why I remain wholly unimpressed by the promise of yet another New World Order,

Again: I was an ordinary Joe at Nortel and eventually got canned. Big deal. I didn''t roll my Balanced Retirement Plan into Nortel's Stock Purchase Plan. Nobody was forced or deviously lured into doing so, as you put it.
The "Dilbert" comic book "Build A Better Life By Stealing Office Supplies" was published in 1997. The proletariat everywhere still does it and will continue to do so no matter what.

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buckpost — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 21:33:07 -0000

Apple,

As I made clear a few weeks ago - http://bit.ly/4wEJZD - I have decided to occasionally wade into the fray to prune comments that I determine to be "objectionable" - and how I define "objectionable" is entirely my discretion given the time and effort I spend writing this blog.

Just to be clear, this isn't a "publicly accessible message board". This is a blog that I write because I enjoy it and hope it makes a positive and constructive contribution to the Nortel, telecom and investment communities. I expect everyone who decides to join in the conversation to be respectful and provide some insight. This is not a free for all bulletin board. If you want that kind of forum, I politely suggest that you go somewhere else.

If I choose to delete or modify comments, that is my decision, although I do not feel it is my position to micro-moderate. While I appreciate your enthusiasm for participating in this blog and hope you continue to do so, I suggest you take my guidance under consideration. If this isn't something you can live with, there are lots of other places to talk about Nortel.

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observer — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 20:23:35 -0000

observer, you know what I "observed", firsthand, as a fellow prole amongst the lowly masses, during Nortel's heyday? They got pretty busy scamming Nortel, too. Got greedy, sloppy and lazy. Defending this as the lesser of two evils by lamenting "Well, the brass started it" is bogus.Today, more than a few the remaining are demoralized to the point where they've again become - what else - greedy, sloppy, and lazy, merely sitting waiting for their severance package. Readily earned, of course.

The heydey ? That was 8-9 years ago. How long are you going to look at the largest equity bubble in history and judge Nortel (or anyone else). Come into 2008. Employees come and go. Get use to it. We live in the age of globalization. The age of entitlement is over. This is a good thing.

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Apple — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 19:03:17 -0000

Mark Evans
as You see 3 days ago The Psychiatrist replied to my post
So where is my post?
It was here as you see.
Is my post missing or you deleted it?
Are you deleting my posts? and another question about your blog
Why did you start approving posts on publicly accessible message board?
What criteria you use to do so?
If we knew the criteria we would follow the rules in discussing NT stock where the bulls and bears should have equal rights.

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ex-nortel^2 — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 12:31:44 -0000

"It's not practical."
"It's too much work."

And the best one, "It's not my strength."

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ex-nortel^2 — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 12:30:26 -0000

"... amongst the lowly masses, during Nortel's heyday? ... greedy, sloppy and lazy. "

You nailed it.

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puddintane — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 10:48:51 -0000

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buckpost — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 22:23:45 -0000

It got caught by Disqus, and I wasn't able to approve it until tonight.

Mark

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observer — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 21:35:09 -0000

By the way, if Owens is still getting paid lifetime pension and/or salary by NT, as a shareholder you have to ask why ? Doesn't he have a non-compete agreement in place ? How come no one in Canada is smart enough to bring this up in the media ? Why do you protect Nortel or anyone else ? What is it that you are afraid of ? Unless the media begins exposing the scam of corporatism, the rest of the world will never follow. That goes for China, India and everyone else.

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Apple — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 19:48:58 -0000

Don't worry, Observer
It's only one of many blogs... and it shows That this blog is going down to the drain right with NT stock and Nortel's advertisements on this blog...
There are other publications and if Mark wants to publish for public he should think before being pushed by crooked Nortel's supporters into such situation that he lets the Psychiatrist attack me here but doesn't keep my reply...
They put words into my mouth, example that I have friends in Nortel, or know Nortel's engineers, or have inside info...
How pathetic and low it is?
This is a blog about publicly traded company.
I think I have rights to post my critics about NT stock on publicly accessible boards to warn my extended family about the stock, to share my views with friends...
What's wrong if I feel that NT is a good stock to short?
Maybe Mark Evans can answer that one?
I dare Mark Evans or anyone, to show my post on a public message board that was wrong or misleading about NT /or AAPL/ in last 5 years!
NT is 70 cents now and AAPL is $360 for your information /pre split/
Nortel's misfortunes can be blamed on Nortel!
It's time to admit that!
Maybe Criminal trials will show something we don't know? RCMP charged ex_Nortel's managers with criminal acts.
Maybe SEC vs ex-Nortel's managers will expose how Nortel was doing business_accounting?
I hope so...
I have been waiting for both trials for a long time...
It so easy to search and find my post here or anywhere, and it is easy to find posts bashing me... who was right about NT stock in last 5 years and who was bashing critics?
I stand behind every word I've posted!
Some posters think it's OK to fool investors.
It's the game! Right?

Re: Q2 Results: August 1

observer — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 18:17:57 -0000

http://uk.reuters.com/article/fundsNews2/idUKHK...

Mid-size company AEA Investors -- best known for the whopping profit it made in selling the U.S. personal products company Burt's Bees last year, also made it onto the list for the second round of bidding. Its bid is being led by managing director Bill Owens, the former CEO of telecommunications equipment maker Nortel Networks Corp (NT.TO: Quote, Profile, Research) (NT.N: Quote, Profile, Research), sources said.

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observer — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 18:16:45 -0000

Why did you filter the post I put up on Owens and Huawei ?

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Observer — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 11:32:55 -0000

Is Nortel still paying Owens a severance ?
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UPDATE 1-Huawei narrows list of mobile unit bidders-sources

Mid-size company AEA Investors -- best known for the whopping profit it made in selling the U.S. personal products company Burt's Bees last year, also made it onto the list for the second round of bidding. Its bid is being led by managing director Bill Owens, the former CEO of telecommunications equipment maker Nortel Networks Corp (NT.TO: Quote, Profile, Research) (NT.N: Quote, Profile, Research), sources said.

The presence of New York-based AEA in an auction with buyout giants is attributed to the expertise and experience of Owens, who is based in Hong Kong. Owens was not immediately availble to comment on Thursday.

MILITARY MEN

Prior to joining AEA in April 2006, he was chief executive officer and vice chairman of Nortel. Owens was previously the CEO of Teledesic LLC and vice chairman of high-tech company Science Applications International Corporation (SAIC).

In addition to his background in the telecommunications business, Owens has another trait he shares with Huawei's founder: A military past.

Prior to joining SAIC, Owens was U.S. vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the country's second-ranking military officer. He also served as commander of the U.S. Sixth Fleet in 1990 and 1991 during Operation Desert Storm in Iraq.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/fundsNews2/idUKHK...

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many — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 18:27:14 -0000

Follow the money and the ol' boys club..

Look at the John Roth-Red Wilson-Carlucci connection
http://www.nortel.com/corporate/news/newsreleas.... Carlucci was also Ronald Reguns defence secretary and charman of the Carlile group.

BTW Frank Carlucci IV (his son) was a mucky muck at Avaya, Lucent and Extreme.

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puddintane — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 16:56:08 -0000

In what cheek is that tongue right now?

I'm sorry but Bill Owens also doesn't need someone anoymously, blindly defending his honor here, either.

http://www.canadianbusiness.com/companies/artic...

"Owens is not your typical Nortel CEO. He is not Canadian. He is not a technology or telecom industry veteran. He is not a longtime executive or even a management turnaround specialist. And although he may be unfalteringly honest and forthright, he comes off as more than a little bland, with the cautious, methodical speaking style of a politician--almost a drone. What's worse, in the eyes of many outsiders, his performance in the past nine months has left something to be desired"

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many — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 13:23:00 -0000

I thought Owens was perfect for the job. After all he was a submariner.

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The Psychiatrist — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 10:56:09 -0000

This Apple character has been in overdrive on the NT conspiracy theories ever since Mr.Owens was CEO when the company announced the original BSNL contract.

Reflective of his delusional state of mind is the fact that Mr.owens himself was not solely responsible for putting together a deal the size of the one that NT engaged in with BSNL.

Apple

I had recently prescribed you Risperdal to help minimize your antipsychotic tendencies,have you been taking your medication lately?

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Tongue.In.Cheek — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 10:35:00 -0000

If you're going to attack Bill Owens then do it publically rather than hiding behind anonymous screen names in message boards and blogs. You say that you have spoken directly with Nortel Engineers associated with the BSNL project - so disclose what they had to say and who they are. It is simple to manufacture crazy statements to attack a person, so stand up, be a real man and make formal disclosures of facts, not fiction.

Send a formal document to Nortel. Send a formal document to Bill Owens. File a Class Action Suit. Otherwise this comes across as just more of the same BS smoke and mirrors that is so typical of the "Nortel Must Die" nonsense that exists on many of these forums.