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Re: What to Expect on Monday

HeadsZWinsTailsYouLose — Sun, 01 Mar 2009 13:33:28 -0000

I think as soon as Z presents the plan NT is Chapter 7. Creditors will not go for it and will press for liquidation. Right now the creditor's hands are tied in court. I agree with C_O that Z and the gang are grabbing as much as they can while it is still possible (docket 389).

If only we had proof of ill intentions......

Re: What to Expect on Monday

skeptical2009 — Sun, 01 Mar 2009 13:04:28 -0000

why dont you two ex-installer types go get a room?

Re: What to Expect on Monday

less — Sun, 01 Mar 2009 09:34:12 -0000

And I still think management should be forced to walk the silent if watchful gauntlet at work daily.

The Believers say "We stand, we walk behind you!", whilst the non-Believers would actually do it. - just not the way Mikey envisioned with his "forward-looking" schtick.

Re: What to Expect on Monday

scalpcutter — Sat, 28 Feb 2009 23:05:47 -0000

Let's find out?

Re: What to Expect on Monday

scalpcutter — Sat, 28 Feb 2009 23:04:54 -0000

Let's meet chicken heart.
What town you in?

Re: What to Expect on Monday

broadbandbill — Sat, 28 Feb 2009 22:40:19 -0000

What kind of person takes pleasure in witnessing other people’s pain? You are deeply disturbed and you should NOT be allowed to post anymore…--bb

Mark, this is NOT cool and not kosher at all. AT ALL!!!!!!

Re: What to Expect on Monday

broadbandbill — Sat, 28 Feb 2009 22:36:57 -0000

Surprisingly, Z and his GEngsters have found a way to turn even them into non-believers. Now that ain’t easy…--bb

Re: What to Expect on Monday

exnt_x_2 — Sat, 28 Feb 2009 22:33:38 -0000

Reductio ad Hitlerum,

Of course it had to happen.

Re: What to Expect on Monday

broadbandbill — Sat, 28 Feb 2009 22:32:48 -0000

You got bad Karma dude; chill and inhale some of that ‘medicinal cannabis’ (not condoning illegal use); you have a good argument against the temporary and alcohol manufacturers-backed laws (US of course, where else)…--bb

Also, you seem like the creative type so let's do away with the satanic references.

Re: What to Expect on Monday

GrimReaper — Sat, 28 Feb 2009 21:40:17 -0000

You are a big talker, punk. Big boy cubicle dweller. I would welcome to lay your fat soft ass out.

Re: What to Expect on Monday

GrimReaper — Sat, 28 Feb 2009 21:39:16 -0000

Guess I won't be looking for a job at Nortel, eh? You might need to go clean out your old room so you and the family can move back into mommy and daddy's house! Don't forget to take out the trash!!!

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Nortel_Sucker — Sat, 28 Feb 2009 21:37:01 -0000

Dim Reaper, you don't like Monday's because that is the day your mamma yells at you to go out and get a job.

Re: What to Expect on Monday

McBeese — Sat, 28 Feb 2009 18:33:35 -0000

Yep, that's exactly what's gonna happen. Joel Hackney - light bulb man, woman-beater, employee-intimidator, clueless enterprise laughing-stock - is going to get more than a year's salary as a bonus to keep driving Nortel into the ground.

HOW DOES THAT MAKE EVERYONE FEEL?

Re: What to Expect on Monday

McBeese — Sat, 28 Feb 2009 18:24:20 -0000

Yeah, but that means those eligible are probably guaranteed at least 50% of it, the average person will get 90% of it, and the GEniuses will get all of it and more.

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McBeese — Sat, 28 Feb 2009 18:18:15 -0000

Absolutely - that is the loudest noise you can make. The company talks like employees are golden and acts like they are liabilities. Time for the employees to flex a little muscle.

It doesn't matter that you don't have a union. You are perfectly safe if you do it right, especially in Canada (and better off without union bloodsuckers reaching into your wallet).

Call in sick. "Oh boss, killer migraine, can't function. Going to see doctor."

Go see your Doctor (very important step). Same story, "Bad headache, can't function. Could it be the stress I'm under? I expect to get laid off any day. I feel dizzy, how is my blood pressure?". Now you have a bullet-proof paper trail.

At end of day, email boss "Dr said this ______. "

Re: What to Expect on Monday

scalpcutter — Sat, 28 Feb 2009 17:41:02 -0000

Whatever makes you feel better little boy.
Just break out those placards of protest and get up there on parliament hill. You'll save the world.

Re: What to Expect on Monday

DRP666 — Sat, 28 Feb 2009 17:22:47 -0000

Go on your apatheic ways ...just like the rest of the world did when Adolf was stirring up things in Europe. You are a uneducated momma's boy with no consideration for anyone else than yourself. You are the joke and have no clue what is going on. Don't listen to me...it's a free world...thanks to people like maybe your grandfather that stood up to the injustices.....but you can go ahead and keep your head down....maybe you won't get hit. I guess people have to listen to your crap cause your're always right.....what a joke indeed.

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scalpcutter — Sat, 28 Feb 2009 17:12:35 -0000

If there is one thing I have no time for and will definitely publicize and point it out at every opportunity, face to face, online, or under any other circumstance it is people who blab about how other people "should do this, should do that" questioning someone elses circumstances, situation or character when they themself have none. Kind of like the nagging wife or andy rooney on steroids.
What a joke.

Re: What to Expect on Monday

scalpcutter — Sat, 28 Feb 2009 17:00:05 -0000

I am just going to sic my boys on you bunch of pathetic sniffers. The jig is up. You've been exposed for the sham you are..kid.

Re: What to Expect on Monday

DRP666 — Sat, 28 Feb 2009 16:57:32 -0000

Looks who's the little boy...hey smart ass.....why do you think desktop uses videos of Adolf and his buddies....know anything about history...or you too young for that. read a book and learn something about apathetic people and what it ended up costing everyone...your just a pussy...go back to mommys basement

Re: What to Expect on Monday

scalpcutter — Sat, 28 Feb 2009 16:54:48 -0000

You got that right.

Re: What to Expect on Monday

scalpcutter — Sat, 28 Feb 2009 16:53:56 -0000

There sure are alot of gullible, naive, wishful thinking people posting on here. Really exemplafying the canadian stereotype.

Re: What to Expect on Monday

scalpcutter — Sat, 28 Feb 2009 16:52:10 -0000

That is the world we live in sunshine. You will find that out soon enough. Wake up and smell the reality. Why don't you go F*** yourself for starters you litte boy. How old are you..18?
I want to see you standing on the curb with your protestor placard monday morning. Be there!!

Re: What to Expect on Monday

ERworker — Sat, 28 Feb 2009 16:47:03 -0000

Once again the ELT/SLTs have signaled what their priorities are, and its not exactly the business. They are taking care of themselves first and making sure they can rob this company of every dollar they can get out of it before the Chapter 7 filings. So they filed for KEIP and KERP, which throws a bone to a few lower level minions, none of which is performance based. The ones that do the real work and may be eligible for AIP, of course all that is performance based. So if our beloved (cough, cough, gasp) leadership can't figure out how to steer the Nortanic, we still will get nothing. But they have taken care of themselves, so all is right in their world, come what may.

My point is not to complain about what I may or may not get as far as AIP is concerned (I've never thought I was "entitled" to anything more than my paycheck) but that continued arrogance of corporate America where those in charge feel they are just so darned "valuable" in spite of their overall stupidity is just astounding. Nortel's "leadership" is certainly no exception here.

Re: What to Expect on Monday

MrReal — Sat, 28 Feb 2009 16:45:20 -0000

I think that companies under ch11 reorganization should not report profits and losses a per share basis, because existing shares are likely to be irrelevant.
I'd argue that reporting should only be done on a basis of equity if there is any equity left after the creditors are paid. Otherwise if there is a deficit and creditors are expected to recover X cents on the dollar, than the reporting should be done on a basis of how much any profit or loss can potentially affect that number X.
Otherwise the number is completely meaningless.